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The Future of Aussie Housing
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This special HIA National Conference episode features Ian Hazan and Debbie Johnson on housing reform, red tape, and supporting members. Builder Dean Backman shares how he boosts homes to a 10-star energy rating with airtight testing, triple glazing, and smart detailing. Plus, Oliver Burnell opens up about leaving his desk job to become a mature-age apprentice. A must-listen for anyone eyeing a career change or curious about what’s next for Australian housing.
We've got two roles. First and foremost, we have to support our members who are the subcontractors, the suppliers and the builders. The second part is the advocacy we perform on their behalf with government, with the policy makers.Debbie Johnson, Made to Build podcast
About Debbie Johnson
Former HIA National President Debbie Johnson is a seasoned builder, designer, and development consultant with nearly 40 years in the game. Her passion started young, tagging along with her dad on job sites. She went on to found Building Suncoast Green, earning a strong rep for sustainable design and ethical business. Known for her leadership and commitment to the industry, Debbie focuses on delivering smart, high-quality homes that truly work for the people living in them.
About Ian Hazan
HIA National President Ian Hazan is the founder of i2 Homes, which he kicked off in 2005 after working with Krongold and Metricon. With 23 years in the industry and an engineering degree from Monash, Ian’s known as a hands-on builder who blends smarts with experience. He’s all about solving problems on the fly and managing boutique builds from start to finish with care. His mix of engineering know-how and practical skill keeps quality and results front and centre.
About Dean Backman
Dean Backman runs Backman Builders in Melbourne, specialising in sustainable builds and Passivhaus-certified homes. With 12+ years in the game and a family history of builders, Dean’s all about quality craftsmanship and 10-star energy ratings. He works alongside his brother Darryn and brings a family-first vibe to the business. Dean also co-hosts the Build Insite podcast, sharing tips on high-performance homes and pushing the building industry toward a greener future.
About Oliver Burnell
Oliver Burnell is a mature-age apprentice at Ronald Young + Co Builders, known for his strong work ethic, attention to detail, and top-notch communication skills. He’s progressed quickly in his trade, often going the extra mile to support other crews and keep clients happy. With a sharp focus on professionalism—tools, work, and attitude—Oliver sets a high standard. His journey shows what hard work, pride in the job, and a commitment to learning can achieve in the building industry.
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